{"id":9402,"date":"2023-03-30T09:12:55","date_gmt":"2023-03-30T07:12:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/?p=9402"},"modified":"2023-03-30T09:12:56","modified_gmt":"2023-03-30T07:12:56","slug":"ecologie-et-democratie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/index.php\/2023\/03\/30\/ecologie-et-democratie\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00c9cologie et d\u00e9mocratie"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>La secr\u00e9taire nationale d\u2019EELV, Marine Tondelier, a soutenu la manifestation contre les bassines \u00e0 Sainte Soline, malgr\u00e9 son interdiction et la volont\u00e9 de certains organisateurs de casser. Quelle conception de la d\u00e9mocratie cela traduit-il&nbsp;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Les Verts sont tr\u00e8s attach\u00e9s \u00e0 la d\u00e9mocratie, y compris dans leur propre organisation. Ils r\u00e9clament souvent plus de participation citoyenne. Leur soutien \u00e0 l\u2019Union europ\u00e9enne les d\u00e9marque radicalement de courants plus populistes comme la France insoumise. Localement, ils sont souvent promoteurs d\u2019une vie associative riche.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dans le m\u00eame temps, ils n\u2019h\u00e9sitent pas \u00e0 soutenir des actions ill\u00e9gales quand ils estiment qu\u2019il s\u2019agit de prot\u00e9ger l\u2019environnement. On l\u2019a vu avec les faucheurs de ma\u00efs OGM, \u00e0 Notre Dame des Landes ou dans d\u2019autres actions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Pr\u00e9sence \u00e0 Sainte Soline<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>On vient encore de le voir dans les deux S\u00e8vres, avec une manifestation contre les bassines. L\u2019une des associations organisatrices, <a href=\"https:\/\/lessoulevementsdelaterre.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Les soul\u00e8vements de la terre<\/em>,<\/a> explique sur son site \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Seul un basculement radical &#8211; un soul\u00e8vement &#8211; pourrait permettre d&rsquo;enrayer le r\u00e9chauffement climatique<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb. Apr\u00e8s la manifestation, ils se f\u00e9licitent \u00ab&nbsp;<em>les manifestant-e-s ont excav\u00e9 et d\u00e9sarm\u00e9 une pompe et une canalisation centrale de la bassine de Sainte-Soline, la mettant d\u00e9finitivement hors d&rsquo;\u00e9tat de nuire<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On pourra lire les avis oppos\u00e9s <a href=\"https:\/\/reporterre.net\/Julien-Le-Guet-l-homme-qui-fait-trembler-les-megabassines\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">de Reporterre<\/a> et de <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GeWoessner\/status\/1640066999765159936\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">G\u00e9raldine Woesser<\/a> sur cette association.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Marine Tondelier a <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marinetondelier\/status\/1639588737381285890\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">refus\u00e9 d\u00e8s le d\u00e9part<\/a> de voir qu\u2019une partie des organisateurs voulaient d\u00e9truire en affirmant \u00ab&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marinetondelier\/status\/1640067999615836160\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">qu\u2019on ne peut pas d\u00e9truire un trou<\/a>&nbsp;\u00bb. Elle a persist\u00e9 apr\u00e8s la manifestation \u00ab&nbsp;S&rsquo;il n&rsquo;y avait pas eu de forces de l&rsquo;ordre [\u00e0 Sainte-Soline], il n&rsquo;y aurait pas eu ni d&rsquo;affrontement ni de destruction&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Il est un fait qu\u2019une partie des militants pr\u00e9sents s\u2019\u00e9taient pr\u00e9par\u00e9s au combat contre les forces de l\u2019ordre. On ne trouve pas dans les champs de quoi fabriquer des cocktails Molotov comme celui qui a <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sudouest\/status\/1640087488654893059\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">bless\u00e9 un photographe <\/a>de Sud-Ouest. Une repr\u00e9sentante de la gendarmerie <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JLGagnaire\/status\/1640210434706776064\" target=\"_blank\">expliquera <\/a>qu\u2019il y avait environ 8000 manifestants, dont 1000 radicaux \u00ab&nbsp;<em>qui \u00e9taient l\u00e0 pour en d\u00e9coudre avec des modes d\u2019action de type gu\u00e9rilla.<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">D\u00e9bats sur le nucl\u00e9aire<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>La commission nationale du d\u00e9bat public a organis\u00e9 une s\u00e9rie de rencontres, dans le cadre du projet de nouveaux EPR. Comme cela arrive tr\u00e8s souvent, des opposants au nucl\u00e9aire sont venus interrompre les d\u00e9bats <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lavoixdunord.fr\/1284302\/article\/2023-01-27\/perturbe-par-des-activistes-un-debat-sur-le-nucleaire-annule-lille\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u00e0 Lille<\/a> et<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Kako_line\/status\/1621208566852976644\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> \u00e0 Lyon<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Philippe Guelpa-Bonaro, cosecr\u00e9taire d\u2019EELV \u00e0 Lyon, vice-pr\u00e9sident de la M\u00e9tropole de Lyon a approuv\u00e9 ces interruptions <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FilGB\/status\/1621213521676574720\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">sur Twitter<\/a>&nbsp;:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Un d\u00e9bat compliqu\u00e9 \u00e0 lancer \u00e0 Lyon perturb\u00e9 par une jeune g\u00e9n\u00e9ration qui n&rsquo;accepte pas les d\u00e9cisions antid\u00e9mocratiques et cataclysmiques pour les g\u00e9n\u00e9rations futures d\u2019Emmanuel Macron.<\/em> <em>Nucl\u00e9aire ni ici ni ailleurs.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Que dire de<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/marietouss1\/status\/1622941396838633473\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> la remarque<\/a> d\u2019une d\u00e9put\u00e9e europ\u00e9enne pointant un pantouflage imaginaire de Maud Bregeon, d\u00e9sign\u00e9e comme rapporteure du projet de loi d\u2019acc\u00e9l\u00e9ration du nucl\u00e9aire&nbsp;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Une curieuse conception du d\u00e9bat, qui consiste \u00e0 emp\u00eacher l\u2019expression de ceux qui ne pensent pas comme vous. Mais on sait depuis longtemps que pour beaucoup d\u2019\u00e9cologistes, il n\u2019y a de d\u00e9bat d\u00e9mocratique sur le nucl\u00e9aire que s\u2019il va dans leur sens.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Certitude d\u2019avoir raison<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>On ne sera pas \u00e9tonn\u00e9 d\u2019entendre dans la bouche d\u2019un Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JLMelenchon\/status\/1619345547172659200\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">la justification<\/a> d\u2019actions ill\u00e9gales&nbsp;: <em>Insoumis, c\u2019est quelqu\u2019un qui n\u2019accepte pas une loi qui s\u2019impose \u00e0 lui contre ce qu\u2019il croit juste : dans son c\u0153ur br\u00fble la certitude d\u2019\u00eatre dans le bien quand on est dans le juste<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On l\u2019est plus de voir des adeptes sinc\u00e8res de la d\u00e9mocratie agir comme s\u2019ils partageaient cette id\u00e9e d\u2019\u00eatre l\u00e9gitimes parce que du c\u00f4t\u00e9 du bien. Avec le risque du retour du b\u00e2ton, quand d\u2019autres pointent des comportements peu coh\u00e9rents avec les id\u00e9es affich\u00e9es. Comme cette \u00e9lue verte parisienne <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lavoixdunord.fr\/1272395\/article\/2022-12-29\/elle-alerte-sur-l-urgence-climatique-mais-passe-noel-new-york-une-maire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">expliquant aller \u00e0 New York<\/a> pour les f\u00eates. Ou ces deux jeunes qui, apr\u00e8s s\u2019\u00eatre spectaculairement coll\u00e9 la main sur le bitume pour \u00ab&nbsp;d\u00e9fendre le climat&nbsp;\u00bb, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.watson.ch\/fr\/suisse\/commentaire\/197003249-fermez-la-et-laissez-les-activistes-climatiques-prendre-l-avion\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">partent tranquillement en avion <\/a>pour des vacances \u00e0 Bali.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pour la g\u00e9n\u00e9ration des boomers, cette conviction d\u2019\u00eatre du c\u00f4t\u00e9 du bien rappelle des souvenirs. En 1964, Bob Dylan chantait \u00ab&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/With_God_on_Our_Side\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">With God on Our Side<\/a>&nbsp;\u00bb, traduit par \u00ab&nbsp;Dieu est \u00e0 nos c\u00f4t\u00e9s&nbsp;\u00bb. Il d\u00e9non\u00e7ait ce slogan qui permettait de justifier tout, du g\u00e9nocide des Indiens jusqu\u2019aux guerres am\u00e9ricaines successives.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Aujourd\u2019hui, \u00eatre \u00ab&nbsp;pour la nature&nbsp;\u00bb semble pouvoir servir de justification de la m\u00eame mani\u00e8re. \u00ab&nbsp;La fin justifie les moyens&nbsp;\u00bb sous une nouvelle forme. On en conna\u00eet les d\u00e9sastres.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La secr\u00e9taire nationale d\u2019EELV, Marine Tondelier, a soutenu la manifestation contre les bassines \u00e0 Sainte Soline, malgr\u00e9 son interdiction et la volont\u00e9 de certains organisateurs de casser. 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