{"id":9347,"date":"2023-03-23T11:10:18","date_gmt":"2023-03-23T10:10:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/?p=9347"},"modified":"2023-03-23T11:10:19","modified_gmt":"2023-03-23T10:10:19","slug":"le-paladin-mode-demploi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/index.php\/2023\/03\/23\/le-paladin-mode-demploi\/","title":{"rendered":"Le Paladin, mode d&#8217;emploi"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>TEMOIGNAGE<\/strong> Une r\u00e9union a \u00e9t\u00e9 organis\u00e9e \u00e0 la Rotonde pour pr\u00e9senter la nouvelle organisation du Paladin. Les techniciens de VSGP s\u2019\u00e9taient pr\u00e9par\u00e9s pour expliquer le fonctionnement alors que le public voulait parler des dysfonctionnements ressentis. Apr\u00e8s une p\u00e9riode d\u2019incompr\u00e9hension mutuelle, le d\u00e9bat s\u2019est apais\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beaucoup de m\u00e9contents<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Plusieurs habitants du quartier des Blagis s\u2019\u00e9tant \u00e9mus des cafouillages nombreux de la nouvelle desserte, nous avons re\u00e7u un courrier cosign\u00e9 de Jean-Didier Berger, pr\u00e9sident de Vall\u00e9e Sud-Grand Paris et de Philippe Laurent, maire de Sceaux, nous invitant \u00e0 une r\u00e9union d\u2019information sur la ligne de bus Paladin 6, le mercredi 8&nbsp;mars dernier.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cette r\u00e9union s\u2019est tenue dans le b\u00e2timent dit La Rotonde au 48 bis de la rue de Bagneux.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00c0 17h&nbsp;25, nous \u00e9tions une trentaine. Dix minutes plus tard, nous nous retrouvions plus de 70 assis sur des si\u00e8ges promptement install\u00e9s pour faire face \u00e0 cette affluence non pr\u00e9vue. J\u2019estime l\u2019\u00e2ge moyen des personnes pr\u00e9sentes \u00e0 70 ans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00c0 17h&nbsp;35, une dame prend la parole et donne l\u2019ordre du jour projet\u00e9 sur un \u00e9cran. Aussit\u00f4t des voix fusent dans l\u2019assistance. \u00ab&nbsp;Pr\u00e9sentez-vous&nbsp;!&nbsp;\u00bb, \u00ab On ne voit rien ! \u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La dame, conseill\u00e8re municipale, se pr\u00e9sente rapidement, elle est inaudible, et encha\u00eene pour expliquer que les personnes de VSGP pr\u00e9sentes vont tout nous expliquer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Imm\u00e9diatement de nombreuses personnes de l\u2019assistance s\u2019exclament \u00ab&nbsp;Pourquoi cette r\u00e9union n\u2019a pas eu lieu avant&nbsp;?&nbsp;\u00bb, \u00ab&nbsp;Pourquoi tout a \u00e9t\u00e9 chang\u00e9&nbsp;?&nbsp;\u00bb, \u00ab&nbsp;Qu\u2019est-ce que c\u2019est une application&nbsp;?&nbsp;\u00bb , etc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Brouhaha incontr\u00f4l\u00e9<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>La conseill\u00e8re municipale essaie de reprendre la main : \u00ab Il faudrait un peu d\u2019attention\u2026 \u00bb.  Un intervenant VSGP tente d\u2019apporter des explications sur les raisons du changement. Une voix forte dans la salle l\u2019interrompt \u00ab Mais, c\u2019est un service public ! \u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tout le monde parle, essaie de raconter ce qui va, ce qui ne va pas, ses m\u00e9saventures. \u00ab Elle marche pas cette application! \u00bb. \u00ab Et quand on t\u00e9l\u00e9phone au territoire, on est balad\u00e9 et on finit sur le vide ! \u00bb \u00ab On ne peut jamais parler \u00e0 personne ! \u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Une vieille dame, presque inaudible, intervient longuement pour dire ce qu\u2019elle a \u00e0 dire&nbsp;! Une responsable de VSGP parvient \u00e0 l&rsquo;entendre: \u00ab&nbsp;Ne vous inqui\u00e9tez pas. On va d\u2019abord tout vous expliquer et vous pourrez alors nous dire tout ce qui ne va pas. On va tout noter. \u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Et encore une fois \u00ab Vous ne nous avez pas consult\u00e9s avant ! \u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Reprise en main<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Manifestement, l\u2019assistance n\u2019est pas venue pour \u00e9couter quoi que ce soit. Ce n\u2019est pas du chahut mais, du fond de la salle o\u00f9 je suis, je n\u2019entends plus rien.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Patrice Patt\u00e9e, adjoint au maire, en charge de la mission Espace public et mobilit\u00e9s, intervient de mani\u00e8re ferme et claire, ce qui ram\u00e8ne un peu de calme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Il explique avec simplicit\u00e9 et beaucoup de bon sens que l\u2019exp\u00e9rience des contacts avec le public montre que les r\u00e9unions d\u2019information faites \u00ab&nbsp;avant&nbsp;\u00bb n\u2019attirent pas grand monde. Les gens viennent parce qu\u2019ils ont quelque chose \u00e0 dire. C\u2019est le cas ce soir. \u00ab&nbsp;Alors, reprend-il, on va laisser le territoire exposer le fonctionnement de la ligne\u2026 Soyez patients\u2026 \u00c9coutez\u2026 Comme \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9cole\u2026 !&nbsp;\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Aie\u00a0!<br>\u00c7a ne manque pas, la r\u00e9action fuse\u00a0: \u00ab Mais on n\u2019est plus \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9cole\u00a0\u00bb.<br>Le\u00e7on re\u00e7ue.<br>Changement de ton. Apaisement. On est pr\u00eats \u00e0 \u00e9couter.<br>Il est 18h\u00a015, il commence \u00e0 faire chaud.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Le monde num\u00e9rique<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Alors, comment \u00e7a marche une r\u00e9servation&nbsp;?Le technicien de VSGP reprend la main et arrive \u00e0 faire d\u00e9filer sa pr\u00e9sentation, quasiment illisible sur l\u2019\u00e9cran. D\u00e9filent aussi les mots de son jargon habituel&nbsp;: application, algorithme, processus de r\u00e9servation, adresse, mot de passe, \u00e9cran, appli. (elle revient souvent, celle-l\u00e0), menu d\u00e9roulant, mail ou SMS, \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Une question vient de la salle\u2026 \u00ab Je vais continuer, je vous dirais apr\u00e8s. \u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Il continue&nbsp;: Temps d\u2019attente, modification, annulation, trajet, \u2026 Bref. Tout y passe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Enfin&nbsp;: \u00ab&nbsp;Si on veut annuler ou modifier\u2026, c\u2019est possible. Le plus t\u00f4t est le mieux\u2026 Il vous suffit de revenir sur l\u2019appli\u2026, vous revenez sur l\u2019\u00e9cran et l\u00e0, tout en haut, vous voyez trois petits points\u2026&nbsp;\u00bb Le reste se perd\u2026 Tout le monde parle en m\u00eame temps.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Une d\u00e9monstration d&rsquo;enfer<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>R\u00e9tablissement habile de Patrice Patt\u00e9e qui a tout compris et arrive \u00e0 ramener un peu de calme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Au milieu de tout \u00e7a, il a quand m\u00eame entendu une chose partag\u00e9e par toutes les personnes pr\u00e9sentes&nbsp;: on ne comprend pas comment marche une r\u00e9servation. Les documents d\u2019information donnent un n\u00b0 de t\u00e9l\u00e9phone pour obtenir de l\u2019aide. Mais quand on appelle, on tombe sur\u2026 le vide.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u2019\u00e9lu propose alors de faire le test, en temps r\u00e9el. Et se tournant vers VSGP\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0On va faire le test. Appelez le num\u00e9ro \u00bb. Bref moment d\u2019h\u00e9sitation et puis la responsable de VSGP qui tient le micro comprend que c\u2019est pour de vrai. Elle s\u2019ex\u00e9cute, t\u00e9l\u00e9phone contre le micro. On entend tout\u00a0: message d\u2019accueil enjou\u00e9 et bavard puis renvoi vers un nouvel interlocuteur automatique qui propose une premi\u00e8re option\u2026 Appuyer sur 1, une deuxi\u00e8me option\u2026 Appuyer sur 2, une troisi\u00e8me option\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Patrice Patt\u00e9e interrompt la d\u00e9monstration&nbsp;: \u00ab&nbsp;Bon. On devrait aller directement sur la r\u00e9servation sans avoir besoin d\u2019\u00e9couter quelqu\u2019un vous raconter toute sa vie\u2026 \u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u2019assistance semble avoir appr\u00e9ci\u00e9 ce test qui vient corroborer ce qu\u2019elle essaie de faire comprendre depuis un moment. \u00a0L\u2019\u00e9quipe VSGP a compris.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Paroles du public<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Il y avait un d\u00e9calage certain entre la technicienne qui s\u2019attendait \u00e0 faire une pr\u00e9sentation comme en entreprise et des gens absolument pas curieux des d\u00e9tails fonctionnement. L\u2019assistance voulait seulement dire tout ce qui ne va pas avec le nouveau syst\u00e8me. Et surtout ce qui ne va plus comme c\u2019\u00e9tait avant et dont tout le monde \u00e9tait \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s satisfait.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u2019exercice de questions-r\u00e9ponses s\u2019organise peu \u00e0 peu sous la conduite de responsables de VSGP. Chacun, dans la salle, y va de son exp\u00e9rience, de son v\u00e9cu. Les habitudes prises pour aller au march\u00e9 au centre de Sceaux avec son caddie, pour aller au Club des a\u00een\u00e9s, pour participer aux animations et loisirs offerts au centre.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Beaucoup d\u2019exp\u00e9riences et de d\u00e9ceptions partag\u00e9es. Beaucoup de regrets de ce qui marchait si bien avant. L\u2019itin\u00e9raire. Pour qui cette boucle vers Bourg-la-Reine\u00a0qui rallonge le trajet alors que personne ne monte? Les horaires, surtout le samedi matin. Des petites habitudes de personnes \u00e2g\u00e9es qui avaient r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 am\u00e9nager leur vie malgr\u00e9 leurs difficult\u00e9s \u00e0 se d\u00e9placer. Et aussi de m\u00e8res de famille, actives, avec enfants scolaris\u00e9s \u00e0 accompagner, confront\u00e9es \u00e0 des changements d\u2019horaires qui \u00ab emp\u00eachent \u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pourquoi ne pas revenir comme avant\u00a0? VSGP note. Il sera donn\u00e9 r\u00e9ponse \u00e0 tout. Quand\u00a0? Ah\u2026 Pas avant\u2026 Apr\u00e8s les vacances de P\u00e2ques, parce que\u2026 Maintenant\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u2019assistance devient clairsem\u00e9e. Beaucoup \u00e9taient d\u00e9j\u00e0 partis dont des jeunes femmes, sans doute appel\u00e9es \u00e0 des charges familiales. Les services techniques de la ville (merci \u00e0 elles) replient les chaises, rangent tout. Quelques-uns restent pour \u00e9changer sur ce qu\u2019il faudrait faire, sur des am\u00e9liorations de la nouvelle \u00ab\u00a0appli\u00a0\u00bb. Tout \u00e7a, c\u2019est une affaire de jeunes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Je pense qu&rsquo;on ne reviendra pas \u00e0 l\u2019ancien syst\u00e8me\u2026<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>TEMOIGNAGE Une r\u00e9union a \u00e9t\u00e9 organis\u00e9e \u00e0 la Rotonde pour pr\u00e9senter la nouvelle organisation du Paladin. 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