{"id":8697,"date":"2023-01-31T08:44:22","date_gmt":"2023-01-31T07:44:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/?p=8697"},"modified":"2023-01-31T08:44:23","modified_gmt":"2023-01-31T07:44:23","slug":"la-societe-de-defiance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/index.php\/2023\/01\/31\/la-societe-de-defiance\/","title":{"rendered":"La soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de d\u00e9fiance"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>En 2008 para\u00eet un court opuscule intitul\u00e9 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.fr\/soci%C3%A9t%C3%A9-d%C3%A9fiance-Comment-fran%C3%A7ais-sautod%C3%A9truit\/dp\/272880396X\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>La soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de d\u00e9fiance<\/em> <\/a>et sous-titr\u00e9 <em>Comment le mod\u00e8le social fran\u00e7ais s\u2019autod\u00e9truit<\/em>. Sa th\u00e8se&nbsp;: la m\u00e9fiance entre citoyens et vis-\u00e0-vis des institutions publiques est plus forte en France que chez ses voisins. Ce d\u00e9ficit de confiance r\u00e9duit significativement l\u2019emploi, la croissance et, surtout, l\u2019aptitude des Fran\u00e7ais au bonheur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Les auteurs<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u2019ouvrage est publi\u00e9 par le CEPREMAP, un centre de recherche li\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019\u00c9cole normale sup\u00e9rieure de la rue d\u2019Ulm. Il est sign\u00e9 par deux \u00e9conomistes, Pierre Cahuc et<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.yann-algan.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Yann Algan<\/a>. Le premier est le plus connu. Il a alors 46 ans, enseigne \u00e0 Polytechnique et \u00e0 l\u2019Ensae. Ses travaux portent essentiellement sur le march\u00e9 du travail. Il est consid\u00e9r\u00e9 comme un lib\u00e9ral.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Le second a alors 34 ans et enseignait jusque-l\u00e0 comme professeur invit\u00e9 au MIT et \u00e0 Harvard. Revenu en France en 2008, il y d\u00e9veloppe sa r\u00e9flexion sur la confiance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Le constat de d\u00e9part<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Nota&nbsp;: L\u2019ouvrage est <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cepremap.fr\/depot\/opus\/OPUS09.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">accessible en ligne<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La premi\u00e8re partie de l\u2019ouvrage est consacr\u00e9e \u00e0 l\u2019examen de sondages r\u00e9alis\u00e9s dans la plupart des pays d\u00e9velopp\u00e9s. Les auteurs comparent les r\u00e9ponses donn\u00e9es par les Fran\u00e7ais \u00e0 celles donn\u00e9es par les habitants d\u2019autres pays. Il s\u2019agit de l\u2019adh\u00e9sion \u00e0 des affirmations comme \u00ab&nbsp;pour arriver au sommet, il est n\u00e9cessaire d\u2019\u00eatre corrompu&nbsp;\u00bb, \u00ab&nbsp;j\u2019ai confiance dans la justice&nbsp;\u00bb, \u00ab&nbsp;j\u2019ai confiance dans le parlement&nbsp;\u00bb. Toutes les questions montrent que les Fran\u00e7ais sont parmi ceux qui ont le moins confiance dans leurs institutions, mais aussi dans les autres en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A la question \u00ab&nbsp;il est possible de faire confiance aux autres&nbsp;\u00bb, 21 % des Fran\u00e7ais r\u00e9pondent positivement, contre 37 % des Allemands, et 45 % des Suisses, et les deux tiers des Norv\u00e9giens ou des Su\u00e9dois\u2026<em>Nota&nbsp;: les autres, ce sont les voisins, les coll\u00e8gues, les personnes que l\u2019on croise ici ou l\u00e0.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La part des personnes qui d\u00e9clarent \u00ab trouver injustifiable de r\u00e9clamer ind\u00fbment des aides publiques\u00a0\u00bb est de 38% en France, 59% en Allemagne et 89 % au Danemark. Les Mexicains, les Italiens, les Chinois ou les Irlandais ont plus de sens civique que les Fran\u00e7ais.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dans une deuxi\u00e8me partie, les auteurs montrent que cette d\u00e9fiance n\u2019est pas un trait historique des Fran\u00e7ais. Un certain nombre d\u2019analyses, en particulier sur les descendants d\u2019immigr\u00e9s aux U.S.A., leur permettent de consid\u00e9rer que le basculement vers plus de d\u00e9fiance aurait eu lieu apr\u00e8s la Seconde Guerre mondiale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">La recherche des causes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Les auteurs partent du mod\u00e8le d\u2019\u00c9tat-providence d\u2019un autre chercheur ( G. Esping-Andersen). Celui-ci en distingue trois types : le mod\u00e8le conservateur, le mod\u00e8le social-d\u00e9mocrate et le mod\u00e8le lib\u00e9ral.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00ab&nbsp;<em>Selon cette classification, l\u2019\u00c9tat-providence fran\u00e7ais est conservateur, car il cultive les distinctions de statuts et la hi\u00e9rarchie entre individus. Les d\u00e9penses sociales dans ce type d\u2019\u00c9tat sont g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement \u00e9lev\u00e9es. Mais elles ont pour but premier de pr\u00e9server les statuts afin de renforcer un ordre social traditionnel. Les \u00c9tats-providence conservateurs sont donc g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement associ\u00e9s \u00e0 un fort corporatisme et \u00e0 un fort dirigisme<\/em>.&nbsp;\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>En France une bonne partie du syst\u00e8me social (\u00e0 commencer par les retraites) est organis\u00e9 sur une base corporatiste (selon les m\u00e9tiers). La France a ainsi 10 syst\u00e8mes de r\u00e9gimes publics de retraite, distincts selon le statut professionnel, quand le Canada, le Danemark, les USA ou le Royaume-Uni n\u2019en ont que 2. L\u2019Italie en a 12.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u2019\u00e9tatisme des pays a \u00e9t\u00e9 mesur\u00e9 par la part du PIB consacr\u00e9e aux retraites des fonctionnaires. Sur 15 pays de l\u2019OCDE, la France est, apr\u00e8s l\u2019Autriche, le pays dans lequel cette part est la plus forte.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Les mod\u00e8les sociaux-d\u00e9mocrates (\u00e9galitaristes et universalistes) sont la marque des pays scandinaves, du Pays-Bas et du Canada. Le mod\u00e8le lib\u00e9ral s\u2019observe dans les pays anglo-saxons (et la Suisse).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A l\u2019oppos\u00e9 des pays les plus lib\u00e9raux, mais aussi des pays sociaux-d\u00e9mocrates, la France se caract\u00e9rise par une peur du march\u00e9 et de la concurrence et une demande d\u2019intervention \u00e9tatique (selon diff\u00e9rentes modalit\u00e9s).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Le m\u00e9lange fran\u00e7ais, entre \u00e9tatisme et corporatisme est unique, selon les auteurs. Il expliquerait selon eux le faible niveau de confiance dans les autres comme dans leurs institutions. En bons \u00e9conomistes, ils notent que cela a un effet n\u00e9gatif sur l\u2019\u00e9conomie, la confiance \u00e9tant \u00e0 la base de la relation contractuelle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">R\u00e9actions \u00e0 l\u2019ouvrage<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>La th\u00e8se a fait l\u2019objet d\u2019analyses diverses : c\u2019est le principe m\u00eame du fonctionnement de la recherche.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00c9loi Laurent est un \u00e9conomiste marqu\u00e9 \u00e0 gauche (il a \u00e9t\u00e9 deux ans au cabinet de Lionel Jospin et fait partie du parlement de la NUPES). Il r\u00e9agit d\u00e9but 2009 <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/laviedesidees.fr\/Peut-on-se-fier-a-la-societe-de.html\" target=\"_blank\">dans un article<\/a> paru dans la Vie des id\u00e9es (Coll\u00e8ge de France). Il critique les trois parties du raisonnement\u00a0: d\u00e9finition du concept de confiance, identification de la p\u00e9riode o\u00f9 les Fran\u00e7ais ont chang\u00e9 et analyse du syst\u00e8me social. Mais il donne l\u2019impression d\u2019une opposition de principe, pour d\u00e9fendre un mod\u00e8le social auquel il est attach\u00e9 et qui lui semble attaqu\u00e9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Olivier_Blanchard\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Olivier Blanchard <\/a>est sans doute un des meilleurs \u00e9conomistes fran\u00e7ais voire du monde. Il a \u00e9t\u00e9 chef \u00e9conomiste et directeur des \u00e9tudes du FMI. Dans <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nonfiction.fr\/article-158-vous_avez_dit_societe_de_defiance.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">sa note de lecture<\/a> de <em>La soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de d\u00e9fiance<\/em>, il commence par pointer l\u2019int\u00e9r\u00eat de ce type d\u2019ouvrage qui part de donn\u00e9es solides mais peu \u00e9tudi\u00e9es pour formuler des hypoth\u00e8ses nouvelles. Il pointe la fragilit\u00e9 du raisonnement en deuxi\u00e8me partie. Sur la troisi\u00e8me partie, il n\u2019est gu\u00e8re convaincu par l\u2019importance du corporatisme. Il souligne en revanche l\u2019impact du centralisme, li\u00e9 en France \u00e0 une double tradition, colbertiste et marxiste.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Quinze ans apr\u00e8s la parution de l\u2019ouvrage, on observera qu\u2019il n\u2019a pas marqu\u00e9 les recherches ult\u00e9rieures, sauf <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.yann-algan.com\/books\/les-origines-du-populisme\/\" target=\"_blank\">celles de Yann Algan<\/a>. Il reste cependant un marqueur de la r\u00e9flexion sur un ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne qui a pris depuis une importance majeure\u00a0: la question de la d\u00e9fiance. Le livre s&rsquo;est vendu \u00e0 plus de 20 000 exemplaires alors qu&rsquo;il \u00e9tait accessible en ligne, ce qui marque un succ\u00e8s public certain. Mais c\u2019est dans le domaine politique et non \u00e9conomique que ce sujet est devenu majeur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nota : cet article est le deuxi\u00e8me d&rsquo;une s\u00e9rie sur la confiance(ou son absence). Le premier s&rsquo;intitule \u00ab\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/index.php\/2023\/01\/24\/la-defiance-mine-notre-societe-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">la d\u00e9fiance mine notre soci\u00e9t\u00e9<\/a>\u00ab\u00a0.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>En 2008 para\u00eet un court opuscule intitul\u00e9 La soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de d\u00e9fiance et sous-titr\u00e9 Comment le mod\u00e8le social fran\u00e7ais s\u2019autod\u00e9truit. Sa th\u00e8se&nbsp;: la m\u00e9fiance entre citoyens et vis-\u00e0-vis des institutions publiques est plus forte en France que chez ses voisins. 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