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Jeudi 5 d\u00e9cembre, environ 120 personnes se sont retrouv\u00e9es \u00e0 l\u2019H\u00f4tel de Ville pour assister \u00e0 la restitution des s\u00e9ances de concertation. Apr\u00e8s la projection d\u2019extraits de ces s\u00e9ances, des participants de ces s\u00e9ances ont exprim\u00e9 ce qu\u2019ils en avaient pens\u00e9. Puis Philippe Laurent a propos\u00e9 sa conclusion de l\u2019ensemble de la d\u00e9marche.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Projection<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Toutes les r\u00e9unions ayant \u00e9t\u00e9 film\u00e9es, un nouveau film a \u00e9t\u00e9 mont\u00e9, En premi\u00e8re partie, il reprend des extraits du film projet\u00e9 lors des s\u00e9ances (voir ici<\/a> ). On retrouve les trois questions pos\u00e9es aux 66 personnes qui avaient \u00e9t\u00e9 rencontr\u00e9es en d\u00e9but de d\u00e9marche\u00a0: \u00a0\u00ab\u00a0Si je vous dis Sceaux\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb, \u00ab\u00a0O\u00f9 va Sceaux ,\u00a0\u00bb et \u00ab\u00a0Quelles priorit\u00e9s\u00a0?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

La deuxi\u00e8me partie est compos\u00e9e d\u2019extraits d\u2019interventions de participants \u00e0 l\u2019une ou l\u2019autre des cinq s\u00e9ances. P\u00eale-m\u00eale, les interventions \u00e9voquent des questions d\u2019am\u00e9nagement de la ville, de densification, de lien entre milieux, de sp\u00e9cificit\u00e9 de tel ou tel quartier, de la place des jeunes et des moins jeunes, des lieux de convivialit\u00e9, des prix de l\u2019immobilier, de la s\u00e9curit\u00e9\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

T\u00e9moignages<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Le journaliste qui anime la r\u00e9union donne ensuite la parole successivement \u00e0 une bonne douzaine de personnes ayant particip\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019une ou l\u2019autre r\u00e9union. La plupart des intervenants expriment leur satisfaction de la d\u00e9marche.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Deux exceptions : une habitante des Blagis (des Bas-Coudrais ?) exprime sa col\u00e8re : l\u2019une de ses voisines a vu une grosse pierre tomber sur son balcon. Elle-m\u00eame se plaint de la salet\u00e9 du quartier, tr\u00e8s mal entretenu. \u00ab Aux Blagis, dit-elle, il y a beaucoup de jeunes, certains \u00e9tudiants, d\u2019autres trainent\u2026 <\/em>\u00bb De son c\u00f4t\u00e9, Maud Bonte, conseill\u00e8re municipale d\u2019opposition, pointe la question des commerces de la rue Houdan et de la place du G\u00e9n\u00e9ral de Gaulle, dont l\u2019activit\u00e9 est rendue difficile par la suppression du parking et par la longue pr\u00e9sence d\u2019une palissade autour de la place pour les seconds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Outre l\u2019approbation de la d\u00e9marche (jug\u00e9e \u00ab tr\u00e8s sympa \u00bb par l\u2019un, \u00ab merveilleuse \u00bb par une autre), les autres intervenants reviennent, chacun \u00e0 leur mani\u00e8re, sur ce qu\u2019ils ont trouv\u00e9 important. Un participant \u00e0 deux r\u00e9unions (voir les comptes-rendus de la Gazette) note la diff\u00e9rence entre quartiers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On retiendra la remarque d\u2019une autre intervenante. La concertation est un \u00e9norme d\u00e9fi : 120 pr\u00e9sents sur 20.000 habitants, comment aller vers ceux qui ne se sont pas exprim\u00e9s ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Intervention de Philippe Laurent<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Le maire tire d\u2019abord deux enseignements de tout ce qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 exprim\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

D\u2019abord un grand attachement des Sc\u00e9ens \u00e0 leur ville. De la part de ceux qui y vivent depuis longtemps, mais aussi des nouveaux arrivants. Ceux-l\u00e0 n\u2019y viennent pas par hasard, mais parce qu\u2019ils y ont d\u00e9j\u00e0 v\u00e9cu ou parce que venant des villes voisines, ils savent ce qu\u2019ils vont y trouver. Cet attachement est une richesse qu\u2019il faut pr\u00e9server. Cons\u00e9quence de cet attachement, l\u2019id\u00e9e d\u2019une ville unie continue \u00e0 nous animer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ensuite un n\u00e9cessaire \u00e9quilibre \u00e0 trouver pour prendre en compte des attentes tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rentes. \u00c9quilibre entre urbanisation et cadre de vie, entre ville ouverte et ville mixte. Mixit\u00e9 dans les associations\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

L\u2019am\u00e9nagement de la ville est contraint par la situation fonci\u00e8re. Il n\u2019y a pas de friche ou de zones \u00e0 r\u00e9nover. On ne peut donc pas envisager de grandes transformations. Mais il y a une bonne capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 vivre ensemble.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Le maire rappelle ensuite les r\u00e9sultats des d\u00e9marches Parlons ensemble<\/em> pr\u00e9c\u00e9dentes, en insistant sur celle concernant les Blagis : trois ans apr\u00e8s le conseil municipal qui s\u2019est tenu aux Blagis, les engagements pris par la ville et ses partenaires (Police nationale, OPH 92 en particulier) ont \u00e9t\u00e9 tenus. Apr\u00e8s le lancement du Fab\/lab, c\u2019est une profonde r\u00e9novation du centre commercial qui va avoir lieu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Il observe enfin que la ville a une image tr\u00e8s positive dans son environnement, et que cela lui donne une force dans les diverses n\u00e9gociations pour obtenir des moyens.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pistes de travail<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Philippe Laurent conclut en proposant plusieurs pistes de travail \u00e0 discuter \u00e0 partir de janvier. Pour rester une ville unie. Une ville \u00e9quilibr\u00e9e. Une ville qui accompagne, qui accueille, qui permet de s\u2019organiser.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Quelques remarques<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Le montage projet\u00e9 au d\u00e9but affirmait que 500 personnes avaient particip\u00e9 aux diff\u00e9rentes r\u00e9unions. Le chiffre r\u00e9el est plus probablement autour de 300 (sans tenir compte du fait que certains ont \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e0 plusieurs r\u00e9unions). De m\u00eame les pr\u00e9sents \u00e0 la r\u00e9union de restitution \u00e9taient estim\u00e9s en s\u00e9ance par le maire \u00e0 200 ou 250. Il y avait 124 places assises mais, effectivement, elles \u00e9taient presque toutes occup\u00e9es.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Cela \u00e9claire d\u2019autant la remarque d\u2019un intervenant sur la repr\u00e9sentativit\u00e9 de la d\u00e9marche en cours. On peut penser qu\u2019\u00e0 la mani\u00e8re d\u2019un sondage, elle donne une vision assez juste sur certains sujets. Par exemple, le sentiment qu\u2019il y a des diff\u00e9rences entre quartiers. Mais que dire sur le fort attachement des habitants \u00e0 leur ville\u00a0? Il est assez logique de penser que ceux qui \u00e9taient l\u00e0 \u00e9taient justement ceux qui y sont le plus attach\u00e9s\u00a0! Pas simple!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Les 66 personnes rencontr\u00e9es pour le premier film ont sans doute \u00e9t\u00e9 choisies pour refl\u00e9ter la diversit\u00e9 des populations locales. Par construction, les 300 participants des r\u00e9unions sont probablement moins repr\u00e9sentatifs, quoique plus nombreux. Et tous ne se sont pas exprim\u00e9s, loin de l\u00e0. L\u2019ensemble constitue cependant une somme d\u2019information importante et utile. Dont on esp\u00e8re qu\u2019elle sera accessible \u00e0 tous.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A la sortie de la r\u00e9union, un participant regrettait que la d\u00e9marche se soit limit\u00e9e \u00e0 des expressions individuelles, sans qu\u2019aucun d\u00e9bat n\u2019est suivi pour que des avis diff\u00e9rents se confrontent, ce qui peut d\u00e9boucher sur un approfondissement de la r\u00e9flexion. Ceux qui avaient t\u00e9moign\u00e9 avaient manifestement \u00e9t\u00e9 choisis \u00e0 l\u2019avance par l’animation. Sur quels crit\u00e8res\u00a0? Que voulait-on contr\u00f4ler\u00a0?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On ne pourra qu\u2019adh\u00e9rer \u00e0 la derni\u00e8re proposition du maire\u00a0: permettre \u00e0 tous de s\u2019organiser. Dans cet esprit, comme le faisait remarquer une commentatrice d\u2019un article pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent, un forum des associations, comme dans les villes voisines, serait bien utile.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Un compte-rendu de deux des s\u00e9ances pr\u00e9c\u00e9dentes :<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Parlons ensemble, \u00e9tape des Blagis<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Parlons ensemble \u00e0 l\u2019H\u00f4tel de Ville<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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