{"id":3237,"date":"2021-02-08T10:35:15","date_gmt":"2021-02-08T09:35:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/?p=3237"},"modified":"2022-11-29T09:21:17","modified_gmt":"2022-11-29T08:21:17","slug":"conseil-thermique-et-isolation-municipale","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/index.php\/2021\/02\/08\/conseil-thermique-et-isolation-municipale\/","title":{"rendered":"Conseil thermique et isolation municipale"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>La <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=gEuY8gZ4y2s&amp;feature=youtu.be\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">s\u00e9ance du 4 f\u00e9vrier 2021<\/a> du conseil municipal de Sceaux abordait deux points consacr\u00e9s \u00e0 l\u2019isolation thermique&nbsp;: un sur l\u2019habitat, \u00e0 propos du dispositif d\u2019aide \u00e0 la r\u00e9novation \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique des pavillons, puis un sur deux \u00e9coles. Dans les deux cas, l\u2019enjeu des projets \u00e9tait de saisir l\u2019opportunit\u00e9 des aides pr\u00e9vues par le gouvernement dans le cadre du plan de relance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Les pavillons<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/index.php\/2020\/11\/14\/halte-a-la-passoire\/\" target=\"_blank\">Dans un article pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent<\/a> LGdS a pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 la d\u00e9marche de la ville et l&rsquo;accompagnement qu&rsquo;elle propose aux propri\u00e9taires qui optent pour la r\u00e9novation \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique de leur pavillon. Il s\u2019agit d\u2019une d\u00e9marche pilote, en lien \u00e9troit avec la m\u00e9tropole et les minist\u00e8res concern\u00e9s. Le projet a \u00e9t\u00e9 adopt\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019unanimit\u00e9, majorit\u00e9 et oppositions confondues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La question du volume a \u00e9t\u00e9 soulev\u00e9e par quelques \u00e9lus. <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sceaux.fr\/annuaire-des-elus\/florence-presson\" target=\"_blank\">Florence Presson<\/a> a d\u00e9fendu l\u2019objectif d\u2019une cinquantaine de pavillons par an&nbsp;: elle le trouve conforme \u00e0 l\u2019objectif envisag\u00e9 au niveau de Vall\u00e9e Sud Grand Paris, appliqu\u00e9 au nombre de pavillons \u00e0 Sceaux. Elle pense que la question sera plus d\u00e9licate avec les copropri\u00e9t\u00e9s dans le collectif, puisqu&rsquo;il faut un assentiment partag\u00e9. Elle a aussi annonc\u00e9 de nouvelles r\u00e9unions ouvertes au public en mars.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\u00c9coles \u00e9l\u00e9mentaires<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Le deuxi\u00e8me projet visait deux \u00e9coles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La toiture de l\u2019\u00e9cole du Clos St Marcel est \u00e0 refaire. C\u2019est l\u2019occasion de revoir son isolation. Cot\u00e9 Blagis, pour l\u2019\u00e9cole \u00e9l\u00e9mentaire et le Centre de loisirs, le dossier est plus complexe. Une \u00e9tude a \u00e9t\u00e9 demand\u00e9e \u00e0 un cabinet sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9, qui aboutit \u00e0 envisager des travaux importants (un montant de 70&nbsp;000 \u20ac a \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9voqu\u00e9 en s\u00e9ance). La chaudi\u00e8re serait \u00e0 changer (elle a plus de 20 ans).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a>Philippe Szynkowski <\/a>(Sceaux en commun) a demand\u00e9 pourquoi cela n\u2019avait pas \u00e9t\u00e9 fait plus t\u00f4t. R\u00e9ponse du maire&nbsp;: jusqu\u2019\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent le retour sur investissement \u00e9tait estim\u00e9 \u00e0 plus de 50 ans. Avec les subventions pr\u00e9vues dans le plan de relance, la donne est compl\u00e8tement chang\u00e9e. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sceaux.fr\/annuaire-des-elus\/fabrice-bernard\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Fabrice Bernard<\/a> (Sceaux Ensemble) a demand\u00e9 communication de l\u2019\u00e9tude.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sceaux.fr\/annuaire-des-elus\/chantal-brault\" target=\"_blank\">Chantal Brault<\/a> qui pr\u00e9sentait le projet a \u00e9voqu\u00e9 la possibilit\u00e9 de panneaux solaires sur le toit (poser des panneaux, c\u2019est bon a not\u00e9 Philippe Szynkowski) et la possibilit\u00e9 d\u2019utiliser une nouvelle chaudi\u00e8re \u00e0 biomasse. <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sceaux.fr\/annuaire-des-elus\/jeanchristophe-dessanges\" target=\"_blank\">Jean Christophe Dessange<\/a>s (Sceaux Ensemble) a fait remarquer que la biomasse demandait beaucoup plus de place. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sceaux.fr\/annuaire-des-elus\/jeanpierre-riotton\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Jean Pierre Riotton<\/a> (Vivre \u00e0 Sceaux) a fait part de son exp\u00e9rience dans le domaine&nbsp;: le prix du st\u00e8re de bois a beaucoup augment\u00e9, la biomasse demande un stockage \u00e9norme (3 \u00e0 4 camions de livraison par jour \u00e0 Bagnolet), et la chaudi\u00e8re exige beaucoup d\u2019entretien. Il propose d\u2019envisager une pompe \u00e0 chaleur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">R\u00e9actions \u00e9pithermiques<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Ces d\u00e9bats ne peuvent que susciter des commentaires. J\u2019en donne ici quelques-uns. D\u2019autres suivront dans des articles futurs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vouloir aller plus vite d\u00e8s maintenant sur la r\u00e9novation des pavillons me parait contre-productif&nbsp;: il vaut mieux bien roder le dispositif que de la faire d\u00e9raper en voulant trop en faire. Les premiers r\u00e9sultats serviront ensuite d\u2019argument pour convaincre par l&rsquo;exemple de nouveaux propri\u00e9taires.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pour produire l\u2019\u00e9nergie fournie par un m3 de fuel, il faut 5,7 st\u00e8res de bois, ou 4,4 tonnes de plaquettes de bois&nbsp;: le bois prend effectivement plus de place&nbsp;! Il n\u2019est pas s\u00fbr que la biomasse soit une solution adapt\u00e9e.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Installer des panneaux photovolta\u00efques, c\u2019est d\u00e9penser de l\u2019argent pour produire plus d\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9 quand on en a le moins besoin, l\u2019\u00e9t\u00e9 et\/ou en milieu de journ\u00e9e. Pour une raison finalement assez simple&nbsp;: quand le soleil donne, il chauffe d\u00e9j\u00e0 directement les locaux, diminuant d\u2019autant les besoins en \u00e9nergie de chauffage. Le photovolta\u00efque peut \u00eatre une solution dans les pays o\u00f9 la consommation maximale est en \u00e9t\u00e9, \u00e0 cause de la climatisation, ou si l\u2019on dispose de moyens pour stocker l\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9 produite. Ce n\u2019est pas le cas chez nous.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La politique suivie par la municipalit\u00e9 parait raisonnable&nbsp;: programmer les travaux de r\u00e9novation en fonction des travaux \u00e0 faire par ailleurs (toiture \u00e0 refaire ou chaudi\u00e8re \u00e0 changer) est de saine gestion. Mais il serait plus facile d\u2019en juger si les donn\u00e9es du <a href=\"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/index.php\/2021\/01\/11\/bilan-carbone-de-sceaux\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">bilan carbone de 2008<\/a> concernant les \u00e9tablissements d\u00e9pendant de la mairie \u00e9taient publiques. Ainsi que le r\u00e9sultat du diagnostic r\u00e9alis\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9cole des Blagis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Comme lors de s\u00e9ances pr\u00e9c\u00e9dentes, on a pu observer quelques \u00e9changes aigres-doux entre le maire et des opposants, l\u2019une des cons\u00e9quences du <a href=\"https:\/\/sceaux-lagazette.fr\/index.php\/2020\/10\/16\/conseil-municipal-du-8-octobre\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">caract\u00e8re th\u00e9\u00e2tral<\/a> de ces s\u00e9ances publiques. C\u2019est d\u2019autant plus regrettable que les deux sujets \u00e9voqu\u00e9s ici sont plut\u00f4t consensuels, comme le montre le vote favorable \u00e0 l\u2019unanimit\u00e9. On ne peut qu\u2019esp\u00e9rer que les discussions soient de meilleure qualit\u00e9 en commission. Cela semble le cas, si l\u2019on en croit une remarque de Fabrice Bernard \u00e0 ce sujet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dernier point. Le maire b\u00e9n\u00e9ficie de beaucoup d\u2019avantages&nbsp;: il dispose d\u2019une large majorit\u00e9, il peut s\u2019appuyer sur les travaux de ses services, il maitrise l\u2019ordre du jour et arbitre les d\u00e9bats. Il connait bien l\u2019histoire de la commune pour participer au conseil depuis 44 ans, alors que les \u00e9lus d\u2019opposition ne sont l\u00e0 que depuis moins d\u2019un an, \u00e0 l\u2019exception de <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sceaux.fr\/annuaire-des-elus\/xavier-tamby\" target=\"_blank\">Xavier Tamby<\/a>. On ne peut que regretter qu\u2019il limite l\u2019acc\u00e8s aux donn\u00e9es du bilan carbone de 2008 ou \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9tude r\u00e9alis\u00e9e pour l\u2019\u00e9cole des Blagis. L\u2019acc\u00e8s aux informations sur le dispositif concernant les pavillons est actuellement refus\u00e9, aussi bien <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sceaux.fr\/agenda\/prep-presentation-et-echanges-sur-le-dispositif-1711\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">sur le site de la ville que sur celui de VGDS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La transparence est pourtant indispensable si on veut permettre au citoyen de se faire lui-m\u00eame son opinion, un \u00e9l\u00e9ment majeur de l&rsquo;adh\u00e9sion collective.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La s\u00e9ance du 4 f\u00e9vrier 2021 du conseil municipal de Sceaux abordait deux points consacr\u00e9s \u00e0 l\u2019isolation thermique&nbsp;: un sur l\u2019habitat, \u00e0 propos du dispositif d\u2019aide \u00e0 la r\u00e9novation \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique des pavillons, puis un sur deux \u00e9coles. 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